tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5502671101756463249.post7375635943590272582..comments2024-03-23T12:38:46.260+00:00Comments on The History Girls: The Counter Armada and Historical Forgetfulness - by Ann SwinfenMary Hoffmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06241989732624913706noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5502671101756463249.post-91210141775933009712018-08-06T13:27:35.073+01:002018-08-06T13:27:35.073+01:00Also forgotten by UK and UK historians is another ...Also forgotten by UK and UK historians is another English Elisabeth I Armada hughe defeat on her renewed attack vs the Kingdom of Spain known as the Islands Voyage 1597. We only hear about the Spanish Armada failure from UK when its fate was a happy one in comparison to the fates of the convenientely forgotten English Armadas expedition disasters of English Counter Armada 1589 and the Islands Voyage 1597. Zagalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12530188233631111715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5502671101756463249.post-17515395807685157612017-08-17T16:16:43.680+01:002017-08-17T16:16:43.680+01:00I meant "are starting to tell"... sorr...I meant "are starting to tell"... sorry my English is a bit rustedfranzjosefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10504915625992301886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5502671101756463249.post-44308287139872951972017-08-17T16:15:33.809+01:002017-08-17T16:15:33.809+01:00The funny thing... the counterarmada isn't tau...The funny thing... the counterarmada isn't taught in Spain either... it is just in the last years that a few Historians are starting the proper History and trying to defeat the Spanish Black Legend gorged by the French, the Dutch and the English franzjosefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10504915625992301886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5502671101756463249.post-5007949184017392492016-08-24T19:05:01.968+01:002016-08-24T19:05:01.968+01:00
I can´t believe that your husband, a professor o... <br />I can´t believe that your husband, a professor of history, admits to not having heard of the English Armada.<br /><br />It´s like when British speak about slavery, they usually blame spanish, and the truth is tha the english transported 3 times the number of slaves to America than did the spanish.<br /><br />Both things are a shame.<br /><br />When I explain to british that In Cartagena the 6 boats of Blas the Lezo defeated 70 war ships (appart from the transports) they laugh at me; now I can understand why.<br /><br />I will follow your blog with interest.<br /><br />Carlos Peña<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01280213711729279311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5502671101756463249.post-36168793629048414442016-06-03T16:10:52.457+01:002016-06-03T16:10:52.457+01:00This Cartagena de Indias episode is particularly i...This Cartagena de Indias episode is particularly important in "english history arrogance" due to the fact that a bronze medallion was produced commemorating a victory over the spaniards that never happened. The "in-famous" Vernon defeat was "officially" buried in shameful silence and even today a very few know about this historical fact. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17750548859844286276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5502671101756463249.post-71369481730227818262016-06-03T16:03:10.504+01:002016-06-03T16:03:10.504+01:00Well, this is just one historical facts that just ...Well, this is just one historical facts that just a few english (and non-english) know about it. The Cartagena de Indias defeat by the spanish (Blas de Lezo was in command) to the enormous english fleet trying to take over the spanish empire after the Portobelo victory is another one. Unfortunately english scholars (history scholars and teachers, that is) often hide the truth due to either arrogance OR conspiracy.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17750548859844286276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5502671101756463249.post-699604108131024922016-04-01T10:41:54.100+01:002016-04-01T10:41:54.100+01:00
http://wesulm.bravehost.com/history/sp_armada.ht...<br /><br />http://wesulm.bravehost.com/history/sp_armada.htm<br /><br />two in onehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18217604276929861499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5502671101756463249.post-12631931585900649142015-08-13T14:10:40.329+01:002015-08-13T14:10:40.329+01:00Despite the Victories in the 100 Years War the tea...Despite the Victories in the 100 Years War the teaching of English History is usually quite silent on why and how the English lost its territories in France,<br /><br />If it wasn't for the fact that we were on the winning side in WWII it would be hard to accept the string of military defeats in Europe, North Africa and the Far East before El Alamein in 1942.Stephen Barkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03076287980465633357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5502671101756463249.post-9047277523510571222015-05-20T19:09:42.909+01:002015-05-20T19:09:42.909+01:00Very informative, and brilliant to hear about thes...Very informative, and brilliant to hear about these conveniently lost bits of history...Leslie Wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15105465949970430998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5502671101756463249.post-48855012282831202152015-05-20T18:59:26.844+01:002015-05-20T18:59:26.844+01:00Great stories, Ann! You are so right about amnesia...Great stories, Ann! You are so right about amnesia. Politics and the times shape history as it is told, do they not?<br /><br />Your story about the rough wooing, however, reminded me of The Game Of Kings, Dorothy Dunnett's glorious novel. Always a good memory.caroline Wrarfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01089414353993365845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5502671101756463249.post-40746982363247298902015-05-20T18:46:56.426+01:002015-05-20T18:46:56.426+01:00Yes, I think every country has a certain selective...Yes, I think every country has a certain selective forgetfulness!Ann Swinfenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08168095839845563846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5502671101756463249.post-79989871344279698832015-05-20T11:43:16.925+01:002015-05-20T11:43:16.925+01:00Thank you, Ann - you've taught me a lot this m...Thank you, Ann - you've taught me a lot this morning!<br /><br />An English enterprise led by incompetent aristocrats and pirates into failure - who'd have thought?<br /><br />I have a Scots partner, and a lot of friends up there. I shall immediately go and let them know about how Dundee welcomed The Rough Wooing. Just a little spreader of light and amity, me.Susan Pricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07738737493756183909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5502671101756463249.post-79635185084181228782015-05-20T09:23:29.577+01:002015-05-20T09:23:29.577+01:00Goodness! What a story! I must look all this up. T...Goodness! What a story! I must look all this up. Thank you!Sue Bursztynskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09362273418897882971noreply@blogger.com